I took my son out to some random patch of public land north of surprise. We had a lot a of fun, digging up old bullets, wire, and nails. It was really great getting outside. It settled some of the questions I had. I did learn a few things the first is I need a pick with a longer handle. My old military fold up shovel just didn't cut it. I'm way to tall for that set up as pick. Thanks for all of the suggestions, the gloves ended up being nice. The leatherman was nice for pulling out a few random cactus thorns. To top of a really great day of pulling lead out of the ground I got to put some back. I shot a couple mags from my new p238. Thanks for the tips, rq