Thanks Gold Seeker, I have a surplus store in Reno so they aren't to spendy. I have the bounce and tap down good but the sand and other crap(lead) just doesn't move like it should. I have found that alot of the grey stuff is gold as well so I need to grind it a bit to free the gold. I'll post some pics when I'm done so give me a couple days ok. Delnorter, thats a slick set up, I'm going to see if they have some slate or matting as well. Thanks a bunch for the effort of posting those! Easy quick and cheap!!! lol!