Thanks Ron and Seb, Seb, my plan is to use one and my boy to use the other,but thanks for the offer. Ron,well more sensitive is a good thing it sounds like,right? I have seen some pics on this forum of some fabulous gold being found with Minelabs. I think what I will do is take the manual and take a short field trip to Nevada and try and learn how to run them. My boy,17,says "Yeah dad I can run this thing", but then again he has grown up and had a computer game in his hands for years.While the old man grew up in the stone age. A