A friend I had been talking with at Reno VA three weeks ago got a great deal on a ML5000 and 3 coils... We had been talking about him getting into detecting before he went out and bought a brand new unit.. Well the story goes his wife called from a yard/estate sale and said, "Hey honey, they have a metal detector here do you want it?" He asked her what kind and how much...she tells him ML5000 for 225.00 !!!!! He almost choked...YES he said!!!! She said, "Are you sure, 225.00 is a lot of money..." Right place at the right time.... He is all excited to learn the game with a detector now.... he had been pretty successful drywashing and sluicing... He is happy .. I offered him triple his investment,,,lolol He did say the box was pretty well shot------i told him that was a crying shame.........