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decent gold allright, just a lot of effort to get it. perhaps get an electric jackhammer with a generator. Assuming that you went to Johnnie area over by the congress mine, the deepest hole there is but a small nick in the placer producing ground there. Beside the volcanics on the west side of the highway, there's also a lot of nuggets found in the slates on the eastern side, for which it will pay to carry sniping tools. There are those that think the Lost Breyfogle Mine is really what became the Johnnie Mine.

Buy a nugget on ebay or from a prospecting shop. tape it between clear shipping tape or blue 3m masking tape. bury it, then look for it. you may try an assortment of sizes in order to cover all bases, so to speak, hey anything from BB size to 5 or 6 pennyweight, even a larger one if you have the budget. Try burying it at different depths and with variable trash or bullets to get the best field for detecting conditions- sad to say it, but since day one on US soil, white people have been notorious litter bugs. All the rest of people types picked up on our habits and no matter where one goes, its foil, bullets, change, chain links, hobnails, nails, rusty iron or cans- well you get the idea. You can also use your test nuggets with variable sizes of coils. Best medium: get some mineral dirt from your sluicer or drywasher friends, including black sands, as that will best represent the realities of gold producing areas. simple garden dirt, sharp sand, stucco material, pea gravel, just ain't gonna cut it.

Hey Grubstake- how ya doing today? keep pluggin along, and stay vertical. What gets me is the list of pills keeps a guy vertical, but not much else. muscular strength is all but gone, no more stamina, ability to lift a lot of stuff or mining gear. much less swing a pick or shovel. Never thought it'd happen, and that ain't the half of it.

any fed with an agenda is going to trample the rights of the public to use public land. We get it all the time, from closing hundred year old roads and trails, old mine districts that went belly up when the metals prices were low (and would likely be booming now; including prospectors and detectorists that only disturb the surface areas within a few feet or less). No access roads into wilderness areas that once were the sites of towns and mills. Fact is, most of the prescribed burns by the feds all jump the lines and become huge conflagrations. It'd be different if the feds had actually practical experience instead of some theory or hypothesis propsed in some text book, but in their case, ignorance is far more lethal and henious (sic?), and the othermostly uninformed public user is unable to expose the myths and lies. I mean, they have to tell people to not feed the bears, not leave snacks in the front seat of the car or onground in camp; what a flotation device is or isn't; not to jump in and attempt to swim in a boiling hotspring, and myriad other garbage that the mostly ignorant public cannot fathom or comprehend; perhaps a public as equally ignorant as may rangers (not all fall into the trap, on both sides). Perhaps people are kept out of burned areas over medical issues with ash and burned residues or some other potential lawsuit. Heck, even little kids have rights these days. When I was growing up, there were good playground swings, merry go rounds, and great (and fast) metal slides. Nothing in the desert, when dug up, was anybody's fault, but considered a keepsake or treasure. Now that we have to leave junk buried to 'save for the future generations' that have no clues or desires to dig anything anywhere up, fed officials have run amok. Placed in charge of the Zoo, where the really strange and destructive animals are the things on two legs- destructive but dumber than a billet of steel. It's really sad that those of us that have a brain (not neccesarily a degree) are being cast into the same lot as the rest of the 'droids.

It's a dirty job.... but with all the brush burned off, may be a boon to a detectorist to scan the hillsides of Cajon Pass, Lytle Creek and such environs, for the area is known for placer gold. Wrightwood southeast, silver lake road east, hills bewteen lytle creek and swartout, lost lake, and west of I-15, cleghorn canyon and beyond. Gold is associated with greenstone, exposed from uplifts and faulting by the San Andreas fault, which is right there. while gold has been small in some areas, average nugget size of <4dwt, wire gold and specimen float has been located there, and some larger nuggets, up to 12 dwt.

on the flip flop? Maybe we should have set you up with a flip flop pool. everyone could guess how many times the doctor flip flops you... And the Winner Is???? Of course, the process would take an impartial observer.... For all you dudes and gals out there, believe you me, TAKE THE TIME to get your heart checked out by a reputable cardiologist. It's a fairly easy test- 5 minutes on a treadmill while wired up, an EKG (Painless), and an ultrasound (cold k-y jelly). If you don't and have a heart attack, you'll be in the hospital at least 4 days. You'll be hooked up to all sorts of wires, needles, in a bed postion not at all comfortable. For many, it will also include an angiogram (usually the right leg groin area) where a skiiny and long wire is fed up into the heart and burning contrast dye is injected a bit at time. The angiogram, from prep to finish is about 1-2 hours but can be longer than that depending on what is found, how to take care of it, and who the doctor has to call to also look at the problem (usually a vascular surgeon). If, like Gary, a stent is indicated, these can be placed and the person sent home within a few hours afterwards, depending on how many stents are placed. A stent looks pretty much like the small little spring found in many ballpoint pens, some bigger, some smaller. If you are a candidate for a pacemaker, the tests are simple, or they can be complex. I had a EP Study once, which is probably the most potential for danger in the hospital, danger as in dying right there. It's not a comfortable test and lasts several hours. The basis for that is to figure out the electrical problems within the heart or controlling the heart. For one portion of the test, you are out cold. Then, they wake you up and start in the second part which is pushing your heart to the max as a means to purposely induce failure (Heart Attack) then pulling you back from the brink. For some, this is the only way to find the problem. I could talk about open heart surgery but that is a little graphic. It's pretty interesting, but for the uninitiated, it's not a comfortable situation to know about. SO, DO GET A CARDIO WORKUP (With a Cardiologist). Maybe all you need is simple pill to control the problem; for some, not even that, but peace of mind. Or somebody may decide to play flip flop bingo with you...

ANGLO SAXON GOLD TREASURE FOUND BY NOVICE METAL DETECTORIST Sep 24, 7:12 PM EDT Huge hoard of Anglo-Saxon treasure uncovered in UK By RAPHAEL G. SATTER Associated Press Writer LONDON (AP) -- It's an unprecedented find that could revolutionize ideas about medieval England's Germanic rulers: An amateur treasure-hunter searching a farmer's field with a metal detector unearthed a huge collection of Anglo-Saxon gold and silver artifacts. The discovery sent a thrill through Britain's archaeological community, which said Thursday that it offers new insight into the world of the Anglo-Saxons, who ruled England from the fifth century until the 1066 Norman invasion and whose cultural influence is still felt throughout the English-speaking world. "This is just a fantastic find completely out of the blue," Roger Bland, who managed the cache's excavation, told The Associated Press. "It will make us rethink the Dark Ages." The treasure trove includes intricately designed helmet crests embossed with a frieze of running animals, enamel-studded sword fittings and a checkerboard piece inlaid with garnets and gold. One gold band bore a biblical inscription in Latin calling on God to drive away the bearer's enemies. The Anglo-Saxons were a group of Germanic tribes who invaded England starting in the wake of the collapse of the Roman Empire. Their artisans made striking objects out of gold and enamel, and their language, Old English, is a precursor of modern English. The cache of gold and silver pieces was discovered in what was once Mercia, one of five main Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, and is thought to date to between 675 and 725. For Terry Herbert, the unemployed metal-detecting enthusiast who made the discovery on July 5 while scouring a friend's farm in the western region of Staffordshire, it was "more fun than winning the lottery." The 55-year-old spent five days searching the field alone before he realized he needed help and notified authorities. Professional archaeologists then took over the find. "I was going to bed and in my sleep I was seeing gold items," Herbert said of the experience. The gold alone in the collection weighs 11 pounds and suggests that early medieval England was a far wealthier place than previously believed, according to Leslie Webster, the former curator of Anglo-Saxon archaeology at the British Museum. She said the crosses and other religious artifacts mixed in with the military items might shed new light on the relationship between Christianity and warfare among the Anglo-Saxons - in particular a large cross she said may have been carried into battle. The hoard was officially declared treasure by a coroner on Thursday, which means it will be valued by experts and offered up for sale to a museum in Britain. Proceeds will be split 50-50 between Herbert and his farmer friend, who has not been identified. The find's exact location is being kept secret to deter looters. Bland said he could not give a precise figure for the value of the collection, but said the two could each be in line for a "seven-figure sum." Kevin Leahy, the archaeologist who catalogued the find, said the stash includes dozens of pommel caps - decorative elements attached to the knobs of swords - and appeared to be war loot. He noted that "Beowulf," the Anglo-Saxon epic poem, contains a reference to warriors stripping the pommels of their enemies' weapons as mementoes. "It looks like a collection of trophies, but it is impossible to say if the hoard was the spoils from a single battle or a long and highly successful military career," he said. "We also cannot say who the original, or the final, owners were, who took it from them, why they buried it or when? It will be debated for decades." Experts said they've so far examined a total of 1,345 items. But they've also recovered 56 pieces of earth that X-ray analysis suggests contain more artifacts - meaning the total could rise to about 1,500. The craftsmanship was some of the highest-quality ever seen in finds of this kind, Leahy said, and many British archaeologists clearly shared his enthusiasm. http://customwire.ap.org/photos/7/7fcdfc80...b75e7-small.jpg Bland, who has documented discoveries across Britain, called it "completely unique." Martin Welch, a specialist in Anglo-Saxon archaeology at University College London, said no one had found "anything like this in this country before." Herbert said one expert likened his discovery to finding Egyptian Pharoah Tutankhamen's tomb, adding: "I just flushed all over when he said that. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up." The collection is in storage at the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, where some of the items are to go on display starting Friday. It's unclear how the gold ended up in the field, although archaeologists suggested it may have been buried to hide the loot from roving enemies, a common practice at the time. The site's location is unusual as well - Anglo-Saxon remains have tended to cluster in the country's south and east, while the so-called "Staffordshire hoard" was found in the west. In the meantime, archaeologists say they're likely to be busy for years puzzling out the meaning of some of the collection's more unusual pieces - like five enigmatic gold snakes or a strip of gold bearing a crudely written and misspelled Biblical inscription in Latin. "Rise up, O Lord, and may thy enemies be dispersed and those who hate thee be driven from thy face," reads the inscription, believed to be from the Book of Numbers. Also of interest is the largest of the crosses, which experts say may have been an altar or processional piece. It had been folded, possibly to make it fit into a small space prior to burial, and the apparent lack of respect shown to such a Christian symbol may point to the hoard being buried by pagans. "The things that we can't identify are the ones that are going to teach us something new," Leahy said. For England, a country at the edge of Europe whose history owes an enormous debt to the Anglo-Saxons, the find has the potential to become one of its top national treasures, according to Webster. Caroline Barton, assistant treasure registrar at the British Museum, said objects over 300 years old and made up of more that 10 percent precious metal are only offered for sale to accredited museums in Britain, so the collection will not be leaving the country. --- Associated Press writer Karolina Tagaris in London contributed to this report. --- On the Net: http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/

Maybe you could ask to have some innovative stents installed- you know, the ones that are remote activated to blow a new passage when the old passage clogs up. Of course, that may require you to be careful around the CB or ham radio. get that little decisive jolt and keep going, and not a jolt you get from coffee. At least your heart allows stents. Stents never would work on me, it's a hands on project everytime. Since the last cutout, food tastes good in spurts. I can never tell if the greasy spoon is taking a dive or if it's just me. even the beer is off sometimes. as foir the nurses, well you never quite know what tricks they'll be playing on you while you're out. even in the limbo state, there isn't much you can do about it anyway. just keep looking on you tube or break.com, maybe your face (or butt) will show up on some thousand hit video.

damn! now you're stuck- sleeping with the detector? gold fever at a high. trying to figure out better pastures to try. old lady is upset that you want more time with some machine than with her. maybe old lady is happy that you want more time with some machine than her, freeing her up to do what she wants while you're out. next thing on your list will be to get a quad and other gear (repeat 4th and 5th lines). last but not least: old lady figuring out what to spend all your gold on after you cash out.

I would also try to open up the crevices using chisels, flat bars, or an improvised big screwdriver, along with a single jack or larger sledgehammer. Crevices are notorious for trapping gold. Because there is water there, getting the gold vacuumed out can be tricky if you don't have some sort of dredge, but investing in a vac pac may work because it has a 2-stroke engine and no internal filter to get clogged up, meaning that dirt that is wet or in water probably won't affect it ability to suck up material into the container. I think you are onto the right way of doing things right off the bat. Besides the vac pac (a five gallon bucket and Echo weed Blower), you may want to think about buying a trash pump, 1"- 2" size so that you'll have the ability to spray water on the crevices and dirt as a means of washing gold into an improvised catch basin. If so, buy rigid PVC hose for both the intake and the output. On the output, on can also install a hose bibb that will allow the use of a garden water hose. A trash pump is one that has seals that aren't affected much by silt and small gravel. Northern sells them; and you could also rent one to try out from a local rent-all shop. The trash pump alllows you to recycle used or muddy water. To keep it light, get a homelite 1" model. if weight and conditions allow, get the heavier 1 1/2" pump with a cage. You can also use the trash pump (1 1/2" to 2" size) intake end to suck up dirt, which will then pass through the pump and discharge the material into a bucket or catch basin, just be careful to keep the material at the minimum size suggested by the pump specs and information, In essence, it'd be like a dredge without the sluice box, though you would be able to discharge into a sluice box or other improvised gold trap. Be on the lookout for gems also, as they are heavy minerals that also tend to lurk around gold deposits. Trash pumps are handy, as you can also use one to work a trommel, pump out flooded areas, drain swimming pools, drain swimming pools to fight a fire, etc. I have a honda 2" for my needs- low maintenance, self priming. 100,000 gallons later, still works like new.

right on! no one ever gets ALL of the gold. However, the easy to get gold is probably not there. meaning get a backhoe, or get somebody to dig for a potential share. There is a lot about metal detectors already posted. If it was me, I start out with a moderately priced nugget-shooter such as a GB2, Tesoro, or some of the minelab lower priced models, and once you get the hang of it, tuning and settings and all, and actually find the goods, upgrade to the more sophisticated models. Of course, you could always start out with the best minelab right from the start, as resale value is good, so you wouldn't be losing much money if you decided to cash in. You may also think about getting a relic-based detector, as there are lots of coins, battle gear, jewelry, and other finds of worth, located in trashy areas where you may need discrimination and different locating frequencies. There are many on this site that have 2 or more detectors, depending on the potential targets and search strategies. There are some that only have one detector as they have found one niche among many that brings them the rewards they want. One has to look at detectors in a similar manner that carpenters look at hammers. A 20 oz smoothface is the happy medium. it may not work for all types of finish work, but will work. It may not be the best for framing, but is good enough to build forms. one thing to note is that a detector setup to find relics is a completely different design than one to find natural gold. there is always crosslapping in object location potential, but ideally, gold detectors work better using higher frequencies or through Pulse Induction, where relic detectors work better with lower frequencies and discrimination ability to navigate among trash. As for gold detectors, the ideal target ground won't contain a lot of iron trash, and other metallic trash. The problem is, is that white people tend to be big litterbugs since the first prospectors or pioneers roamed the wilderness. besides the detector itself, plan on additional outlays for sophisticated headphones, batteries, coils of variable sizing, digging implements, maps, and something to fill the ice cooler, along with a chair or lounger. I'll tell you, it all starts out simple enough, but soon enough, you'll have to invest in other goods like a pickup, a quad or two, maybe a cargo trailer, camping gear. having enough of anything and everything starts clutter in your garage, shed, man cave. It goes on. One way to shore up funding for all of this is to look around local and university libraries that want to discard their geology books, offer to purchase some of it at really low pricing, and then list it on amazon (no fee) or Ebay (fee). you can also sell your gold and relics. old bottles, electrical insulators, battle finds, bar tokens, old documents, and all sorts of other junk. make your clutter some other man's treasured keepsake. If none of that works, make sure the ice cooler is kept in operating condition so that you can have an ice cold beer after a day of searching (for more clutter), or when you feel threatened by the wife to clean up your cave. I have treasures that are treasure to me, and some that are worth more to somebody else. Surrounded by all my stuff is still pretty comforting, and I thoroughly enjoy going to my cave to think, meditate, and dream of the next day that I can go out into the sticks and find some other interesting thing to bring home or research.

Hematite: I stand corrected. thanks. What I like is the story of the guy who discovered the Hand of Faith, now located in the Golden Nugget Hotel in Las Vegas. weighing something like 80 pounds. was a fossicker for 2 years, looked all over the area and region; lived in a trailer in the outback. 2 years down the road, a huge windstorm blew and knocked the trailer off the jacks. In resetting the trailer, one of the jacks was on a big rock that didn't allow trailer setting without moving the rock. the rock? The Hand of Faith (named because it looks like the clasped hands in prayer). Moral of the story, sometimes it pays really big to check out your own backyard first, before moving onto 'greener' pastures. Giga- I've been there with the pick and the nugget. oh well, probably gave it some 'character' A of of fossickers from OZ sell their stuff on Ebay for better prices. related links: http://www.goldennugget.com/downloads/pressreleases/08-09-02%20Golden%20Nugget%20Laughlin%20welcomes%20Hand%20of%20Faith.pdf http://www.geocities.com/mrgoldnugget/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_of_Faith

the area rock and landscape sure fits the bill for gold country. Makes a guy want to work the area with a backhoe. Australia is a big place. lots of places are still virgin gold placers, unworked, undiscovered, unmapped, and unclaimed. just waiting for a couple of blokes to stumble onto them. thanks for the videos!

OTHER AREAS IN THE VICINITY INCLUDE: Shadow Mtns near Kramer Junction, generally south of the mojave to barstow highway; ALONG 395 Coolgardie placers, n of barstow, up towards goldstone; area around goldstone, just outside of ft irwin marine base. El Paso Mtns, SE OF LAST CHANCE CANYON Mtns just west of HWY 14, south of mojave, near carbon plant. not exactly a 1 day gig, but you'll have a few spots to work during cooler days