Thanks Rob, I actually spent about 10 hours with this coil today. I dug some more slots in my test area and set the 1 oz piece in a slot where I could just barely get a threshold break with the 12 x 18. Then I switched to the 22", I tried many combinations of timings. The normal timing seemed to hot for the ground I was in. I finally settled on fine gold timing. I could get a definite signal using fine gold with the gain at 11, audio deep, stabilizer 8, basically the same settings I run the 12 x 18 at. There was a definite improvement in the signal when switching from the 12 x 18 to the 22". Not as big a difference as I had imagined, but it is a difference. I was able to pull out a couple small pieces from a well beaten patch as well. One is .6 grams pretty much on the surface, more quartz than gold I think. That impressed me that I was able to hear that one. The other one is 2.8 grams from about 6 to 8", very faint signal as well. Your right on the money about move real slow. Anything else and it would give to many false signals. And of course, listening for the faintest changes in the threshold. As I said this is a well worked patch, so there really aren't any good clear signals. I'm sure after I get to use this coil more, I will find some settings to get a little more performance from it. Heck I just bought my first minelab in April, so I'm still learning the ropes. Any advice on settings are always welcome. Thanks, Kenny